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Sarah Liu — How diversity and inclusion can grow your business

38 minutes

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This is the surprising key to innovation and growth

What happens when you have a group of like-minded people with similar backgrounds and experiences working in your business? You'll end up with all the same solutions to all your problems, and very little space for innovation.

However, take a closer look at the likes of Uber, Netflix and Airbnb, and you'l see that diversity was the crucial ingredient for disruption - in fact, none of their founders were originally from the industries they disrupted in the first place.

This is what our next guest on The Make It Happen Show, Sarah Liu, calls "The Outsider Advantage". When you have a diverse lineup of talent in your business, that diversity will flow into all the areas of your business, resulting in fresh and innovative ideas that you might have never thought of yourself.

Sarah is the Founder of The Dream Collective, a global leadership consultancy for diversity and inclusion. In this interview, she will open up your mind to the power of diversity, no matter where you are in your business journey. This is a must-listen episode, let's dive into it.

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"Organic growth doesn't get you diversity. You need to be intentional and that's how you get diversity."

— Sarah Liu

In this episode, you will learn:

  • 3:05​ - Why women of mid-level positions struggle with their career
  • 4:13​ - The reality and differences of women's career progression around the globe
  • 5:11​ - The 3 key drivers that hinder women to advance in the professional world
  • 8:26​ - What companies can do to diversify women in the workplace
  • 10:46​ - The danger and pitfalls unconscious bias can bring to the workplace
  • 13:31​ - Steps companies can take for effective and inclusive recruitment strategies
  • 15:59​ - How female professionals have been negatively impacted by the pandemic
  • 18:04​ - How companies unconsciously fail at diversity inclusion
  • 20:06​ - Why you need to stop hiring people just like you
  • 28:02​ - What are some of the lessons you learned this year?
  • 30:15​ - Make It Happen In A Minute




Great insight for business owners and super practical takeaways!

Bruce Casanovic

Amazing guests, great insights into their journey and what has helped make their businesses successful. Great to hear how some of the guests have navigated challenge as well. Loads of good practice takeaways.

Perfect for the Monday commute


Great to listen to on the commute to work on Monday mornings. Great content, well delivered and plenty of insights from industry leaders in a variety of fields. Good to see the entourage getting out there with a podcast series

Top-shelf guests. Top-shelf conversations.


This is so awesome, so helpful, and so fresh. Right from the get-go, the team at The Entourage have brought out the big names in the Aussie entrepreneur and business space to have conversations that every business owner should listen to. I can't wait to see who they bring on next.

Amazing guests


Loved the episode with Tim Fung, Airtasker CEO! You guys are getting some awesome guests in! Thank you!

Entourage on point again!

Adz Rodger

Great content again from The Entourage! Particularly like the 1st episode and the points Tim Fung made about making sure you make time to map out the future and don't get stuck on day to day 'work', as well as the observation that you really need to be strategic about your people management and not just try to save money. Two awesome take homes I have already taken action on!

For entrepreneurs and non-trepeneurs alike


Well this was one of the best things I’ve heard in a while. I’m by no means the target demographic, having zero business or entrepreneurial experience at all. Luckily the advice given for business growth and success is remarkably applicable to personal growth and success. Loved the conversational style, by the end of the podcast I felt like I knew both Tims personally, which is a great mark of engagement. And I loved hearing about the humble beginnings of Airtasker from the founder himself. Give this a listen if you’re craving a bit of personal or professional inspiration.


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